DONUTS !!!

Eunice, Kana, Hui Chian

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went to many places, within few hours, tired walking here n there

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Berjaya TS - Sg Wang - Pavillion - KLCC - Low Yat Plaza

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looking and craving 4 donuts

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all because of our advertising assignment.... haiz

J . Co , Pavillion- luckily got a picture...they dont allow we take pictures there...APA LAR

2nd stop - Dunkin' , KLCC-- honestly, not tempting at all...BUT, the iced latte worth both thumbs up !!!

now my fav part : BIG APPLE , Low Yat

NU SKIN Galvanic Spa

went to midvalley on saturday, there's this beauty expo @ the exhibition centre......

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ,MUMMY !!! i love you !!!

my mum actually bought this GALVANIC HOME SPA thingy / tool for me and my sister ( the main reason) and for herself too.. this is NOT CHEAP, ok ....? cost her RM 1300++ already, including the thing itself ( used to massage the face, eyes, hair/scalp, body...), and the product itself !!!

so sorry guys, i really wana introduce this new and super duper nice product to all of you, but i'm so lazy to flip through the booklet about this things, and then write them here....><

(will tell you more in my next post...) HAHA.....after Connie helped to do only half face demo, to show the difference of my skin = before<-->after....SHOCKING AND SURPRISING i was => my face is indeed firmer, dark circle lighter a bit, skin is smoother, i can compare with the other side of my face leh....1 more thing = RADIANT SKIN !!! as long as i continue using this, once a week, in less than 2 months will see obvious result wor.....this 1 still yet-to-be-proven, let's wait for another 8 weeks.....hehe...

the beautiful, funny, friendly consultant -- Connie

before she showed how to used it, i took a picture -- the products....

I took this 1 myself, she said not bad, coz captured people behind, blurred 1 lagi, nice wor like this...LOL

then when i was using the Galvanic Spa thingy, she took my cam then helped me took this 1.....

thanks ya, Connie ( i know u're reading this post)

*~* i look terrible in close-up...

had our lunch -- seafood platter which costs me -- RM20 ( really a big plate here, so FULL...luckily shared with my sis lar )

went to watch WALL-E....damn funny 1 ^0^ (why watch such outdated show ? you guys might wondered, coz i have to use the bday voucher which expired this 30 Sept....so cant opt for mamaMia / Connected / Painted Skin....)

hand treatment, covered with WAX....(i'm a bit afraid, coz after watching "House of Wax"...) but then, the result was-- the skin became so so so SMOOTH , and also wangi-NYA.....GIRLS, you all should try next time lar

Take A Bow - Rihanna- Karaoke

1st time -- when heard a little from Celine, she played the piano then sing along....

2nd time -- in the radio, started loving this song.....stucked in my head since then,,,,,LOL

bad CAR day !!!

on 22nd Sept 2008, it was my first time encountered such kan cheong and dont-know-what-to-do situation !!!

A TOTALLY BAD CAR DAY !!!

this was what actually happen yesterday .... let me tell u here, haiz.... after a so so so BORING MOT class, as usual i left with my friends ASAP, then i went straight up the hill, under hot sun, walked all the way to take my car .... i wana go home so badly ( i can take a nap 1st before dinner is served...LOL) put all my stuff on the seat next to me, what else to do ?? START MY CAR larr..... shit lor, what happen here ?? apa lar ni ??!!!! i couldn't start my car !!! tried many times already, but still god chose not to help me at all.....

immediately, i grabed my HP, called my MUMMY.....i need help desperately at that moment !!!

she asked me to open the thingy in front, where i dont really know what it call, =p so that i can just knock the battery wor, coz maybe it's the connection thingy or wad wad lar......aiya, i TAK TAU LARRRRRRR..... now the problem is, i couldn't even open it..( or i should say : I DONT KNOW HOW TO OPEN IT ) *pai seh*, btw, i have no idea which 1 is the battery....oh gosh !!

standing there, alone, helplessly looking around for any Homo sapiens there.. and the STUPID STRONG WIND there, blowing my skirt a bit higher, and my hair sort of like kept covering my face, i didnt tie my hair yesterday---->making m3 looked more like a SOR POH .... >,<

then there were these few guys in a car came, stopped and offering help...(i recognized they are from my MOT class 1)...YESH, GOD is lending me HIS hand that time .....*phew* i told them what happen actually, they helped to REstart my car, open the thingy in front, checking some stuff and then said : "the battery is DEAD, not much to do, unless have to 'JUMP START' .." WHAT ?? FYI, a new term added into my dictionary...but then they dont have those cable things and i also dont know lar....they even said have to PUSH the car, down the hill, to the nearest mechanical shop wor....HAR ??!!! sure anot ?? (having this thought / question in my mind) then called my mum to update about how bad was the situation, and asking what should i do....

FINALLY, came out a solution -- left my car there, come back myself, by the time at night when daddy back from work, only we'll go and get the car.....OKIE lar, since this was the only decision, i told them about it, i wouldn't really wana ma fann them also, coz impossible to push it down the hill, SCARY !!! THANKS them a lot, coz by stopping by, asking and offering help already show them are Mr.Nice Guys....LOL.....

THANK YOU very much ....

p/s : for the last part, how was it at night ? i'm so lazy to write here lar....it'll be very very very LONG ... u guys will fall asleep reading 1 ....LOL....FYI, evrything is OK, bought a brand new battery to change the old 1 ( 3 years edi leh...that's y now die lor).. drove to school the next day-- this morning actually...... anything, can just ASK me geh,,,LOL

Mong Cha Cha....

what time is it ?? erm.....let me tell you here --- it's THURSDAY, 18/9/2008, 3.57pm.....
where am i ?? @ UCSI computer lab, blogging soemthing ... ( "pop"..tiba tiba mau blog about how BLUR i was yesterday and also today, just now...)

yesterday, after having lunch at blockA, my friend called me, she's 1 of my best friend in high school, currently studying in UUM, Kedah....damn far leh....we "chit-chatted" for about 1 hour + 30 min...(if i'm not mistaken lar,,) from blokA --> bookshop --> sat in front of the clinic there --> walked to library --> sat outside of ligbrary --> finished !!! went to computer lab, then at last went to library to meet my friends......OH SHIT ....WHERE IS MY FILE ??? I lost my file ? huh ? oh no....everything is inside there, my timetable, all my advertising notes, MOT whole stack of precious notes, important BB info........die lar ( my 1st thought )

how ?? straight away i went back to blockA, asked the kakak whether if she saw any file on the chairs when she cleaned up those table....NO...walked around, searching high and low, all the way back to the library, haih.....cant find it !!! i told my friends..then only 1 of them asking : " is it in the computer lab ? " erm,,,perhaps...i hvnt go and find there....thanks god...it's there !!! *phewwwwwwww* i really duno why suddenly become so BLUR...this is so not me !!!


today, what happened just now was --> around 1 hour back...again, we had lunch at blockB, simply chit chatting so "happily", about ONE TREE HILL,muahahaha...then, it's time to go to library ..so we 'CIAO' lo.... grabbed my bag, my lovely MOT text book, there we went in to the library....reached computer lab, only i Found out WHERE IS MY BABY ?? MY HANDPHONE IS NOT IN MY BAG !!! this really freaked me a lot !!! i had never experienced losing my phone, OMG....please please please ... help me get my phone back, talked to my inner self !!!

i must have left it on the table while having lunch..AIYA .... w/o wasting much time, sort of like run ? haha....faster speed, bigger footsteps, went there !!! from far, saw nothing was there, the table was so so so clean, then i saw Aunty was holding something in her hand, very familiar, it was my hp case, my hp "live" inside....i went to ask her : " erm....my handphone ??!!!" but before i opened my mouth and asked her this, she looked at me asked : " wat tan hor ? " thought i ordered something else instead...hahaha... then she only realised what happened.... again, so so so RELIEVED ... thanks a lot, coz it's the people sitting next to us, saw it and gave it to the aunty..... luckily it was not spotted and landed on someone's hand who has bad intention .... >,<

i almost lost 2 important things in 2 days .....

(promised myself, never ever going to let such things happen again ,,,)

My 20th Birthday !

i have the greatest and wonnn-derrr-fulll birthday so far....

on 12th of September 2008.......

it's my birthday cake here....with my favourite flavour--CHOCOLATE INDULGENCE

after making 3 wishes, it's time to cut the cake !!!

hmm....here's the accountant & finance gang.....LOL

PSYCHOLOGY classmates were there of course ....

clockwise from top left : eunice (xiao hui), kana, carmen

clockwise from top left : wendy, angel, yik ling

with the lovely couple - seowen, min shen

and also with meilina and nicole.

it's their plan....^^V

THANKS A LOT !!!

THANK YOU ! i love you............

Hui Chian : " THANK YOU VERY MUCH, my lovely friends here !!! "

1. xiao hui
2. kana
3. wendy
4. carmen
5. seowen
6. min shen
7. nicole
8. angel
9. meilina
10. yik ling

( thanks a lot for having this REALLY-SURPRISE-MINI-"PARTY",, frankly speaking, i feel like crying for that moment....LOL..... )

p/s : for more pictures and how's the story line, how it all began and end....check out for the next post. will post it later......stay tuned !!!

simply doing something

guess what ? here i am, at my college computer lab blogging....muahaha......dont say i'm free and always posting something here, i'm busy busy busy !!! just that feel like wana writing some stuff here...

12.30pm : went to my "favourite" classs this semester-- MOT tutorial ... (we manage to fight for it ! we got group 1...long story actually...but a funny 1 ...LOL)

2pm : class ended !!! went to lobby since there's the INDO FAIR , my friend and her friends were @ the booth, selling really nice clothes, skirt, dress, bags, keychains, bracelets...all these were brought back from INDONESIA ... they went all the way back and brought back here......awesome !! hahaha... bought a RM35 dress (i woud say) looks simple, it's their indonesia's traditional clothes.....hehe....then, went to eat "chap fan" with another 2 friends.....

3pm : back to UCSI from outside "chap fan" stall....(dont really remebered the name..) then, here i am... in the computer lab, 1 floor above the library .. waiting for 4.3opm, discussion with a friend on how to the booklet thingy for this upcoming BB Party next week.... then again, we have to wait for 5,3opm : the BB meeting with all other members...*sigh* i just feel a little ...ermm.....nothing, coz why put it so late ? i mean the meeting, then i have to rush to catch the bus, or van, waiting like hell if i miss it ... then only take the LRT back to Cempaka station....haiz.... nvm, i think later i'm gonna leave earlier, in order to make life EASY .....

sometimes, egoism just has to POP in, sometimes have to think of ourselves too.... aiya....just skip this topic right now... okie, gtg now....finish my work 1st...

The Day Has Come...

been cracking my head this few days, thinking of what i should blog here.....*sigh* i've been really busy this semester, all BECAUSE it's a short sem....

well....THE DAY I'VE BEEN WAITING SINCE LONG LONG TIME AGO --> finally it's here....

but then, should i really happy ? or should i just not hoping too much, coz like everyone says : " the more u hope, the more u'll feel disappointed . " (if something doesn't happen lar...) wad-eva.... just be normal i guess,, can i do that ?!! because,,,now , while writing my blog here, my heart beat has already double-up, my mind is full of stuff....imagining how wonderful things could happen,,

WHAT IF.......? HOW NICE ......

here's a simple wish lists, i know it's not gonna happen after all....but just let me daydream a bit, gimme a bit HOPE LAR...

I WANT :

1. APPLE -- iPhone
2. my very own car ( any model i dont care, but puh-lease---not KANCIL , and not MANUAL)
3. a super-duper vacation to anywhere but not in Msia (HK,France,Australia,Japan,Korea....)
4. my personal laptop -- VAIO .... (i'm so sick of have to fight with my sis using it =p )
5. permission to buy at least 1 pair of shoe per month
6. i need clothes of every types and colours
7. EARRINGS !!! ( hope yto reach 30 pairs by end of 2008 ) FYI, i have 10 now....yeah
8. pamper myself with manicure + pedicure @ SNIPS --> i'm so tired of DIY
9. collection of different colours of nail polish.....
10. buffet dinner @ JOGOYA

( cant think much apart from all 10 things above, i'm just a simple gal here, living a simple life. wishing for some SIMPLE things ) that's my blog's add wad.....www.simplelifechien.blogspot.com

really have to go, cant blog much, it's already 11.18 am , a have to eat my lunch, bathe, change, go to college, class at 12.30pm......

my room ...

i know i know...it's so messy ,, btw....it's my room here,,my dressing table here...lol...
just randomly took some pictures,,since i was in my room,,what else if not my bed and my lovely and so cute-->mashimaro and garfield here...huh ??

which 1 is my bed ?? the pink 1 larr.....

2 beds ?? i'm sharing this room with my sis,,only when bed time,,she got all her stuff from her closets to all her posters (covering all over the wall,,that i could barely see the wall)

and also, i think i'm afraid of sleeping alone myself ? afraid of the dark ? perhaps.............it's scary, i had an creepy experience before, a BAD BAD one.. not to mention here lar....

a brave decision !

FRIENDSHIP

i really care....

"We don't always have an answer for a troubled friend. Sometimes all we can offer is our love."

i know some of my friends out there, having problems either serious or minor 1, i know you are facing difficulties in life at this moment, or perhaps have to go through all these bad bad things all by yourself...

feel like giving up ? suicidal thought ever cross your mind ? no idea why you should continue living ? struggling in your studies ? nobody understands how you feel ? no matter what sort of problems are you having now......

DONT KEEP IT IN YOURSELF !

tell some else instead, share with your loved ones, your friends around you, it's okie to tell someone in MSN or during your chat (if you are not comfortable telling someone face-to-face...) just remember to find a friend who you trusted, and he/she wont take over the role of a DJ -- means they wont spread the news/things you told them to everybody they know.....trust me, you'll feel like killing some1 if things really goes awful....

when you have speak out, this is one way to release what so ever negative feeling/qi inside your body.. you'll feel better when your problems are shared with someone (it's true, you know ?)seek any advices if needed, accept it, dont try to deny it....

sometimes, we might not have a perfect answer for you to solve all these problems that keep bothering you, just remember 1 thing - - WE DO CARE, I CARE...caring and loving a friend is the main element that form and hold a true friendship, which lasts and will only ends when we die.. dont forget, you have lots of people and friends that will always remember and willing to help you going through any UP and DOWN in your life...

SO, if one day, (i'm saying IF ) I happen to forget any of you, dont pay any attention or dont care how you feel or dont love you anymore, slap me real hard ! i must been hypnotized or someone put some "spell" on me....LOL...i know this sounds so lame or stupid, but just to remind all my friends,

I WILL ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU...

*kisses + huggies*....muakss...

WTH !!! PLAGIARISM happening here .. NOT ME

I'M SO PISSED at this particular moment !!!

after knowing few minutes before, that someone out there, had already --> copy & paste 2 of my considered-latest-posts in my blog (september 1)... FROM my blog here TO her blog ... holy SHIT !!! steal my pictures from my blog, copy what i've written, changing some totally-untrue-fact,,then POPS !! it's her blog now ? what the heck is this ??!!!

This is totally PLAGIARISM !!!

i'm the victim here, okie ?! how dare she do such thing, maybe she dont know -- this is not a right way ?! oh puh-lease .....HAIZ.....

Hui Chian : " if u guys find any similar posts at any other sites, please dont hesitate to ask me and i can figure out what happen....i swear i will never ever do such thing, "

~ i will never ever copy & paste other people's posts .

~ PLAGIARISM is a big NO-NO in my dictionary, not in doing assignments of course and also HERE in my blog...

~"UCSI had done a great job training their students not to plagiarize....." this 1 is what my MUM said...she kept laughing non-stop when i told her about this thing that really turns me OFF....when she found out who's that fellow is, laugh even louder....then she asked me to post this ASAP....hahahha

p/s : so sorry to those who are reading this, i really cant control myself right now....just dont understand here, WHY WHY WHY ???

before going out for a DATE ...

gal : "it's 8am,,WAKE UP darling !!! we gotta be late ....."

guy : *snores even louder..*

gal : "my face feels so refreshing, clean clean clean...yeah..." ( needs 15min just to wash her face, applying tonnes of facial products )

guy : *still dreaming of his ex, things that could never happen anymore...*

gal : " OMG...what to wear ? i have no clothes to wear...*sign*

{her closets is FULL of branded tops+pasar mlm clothes....from MNG to Vior, from Seed to P&Co, from SML to wad-so-eva...).

" haiz, what about black and white ? but i like PINK, but it doesnt match with my green pumps..hmm, pinkish baby top here, with my flare skirt...but i feel like wearing my sneakers instead.... it looks like a WEIRD combination....when feminine meets with sporty ?! what the heck is this lar....ermm,,,bla bla bla....." talking to her inner self...

this process of a girl choose-->change-->REchoose-->REchange.....duno how many times, took her 30min to get herself in the perfect outfit and ready to go....oh gosh !

HONESTLY, i totally agree, that this part is really describe m3 well...

I'M ACTUALLY HER, IN THIS PART (involving clothes)....

wait first !! we forgot the MAKEUP part....

gal : " toally ! i have flawless skin right now, mata sepet become bigger eyes, w/o eye bag/dark circle, longer eye lashes, pouty lips, gone all those acne scars = clean & clear face .... READY TO GO..."

then only she remembers, where is----- " darling, are you ready to go ? "

guy : " hmm.....*yawn* coming !!!" even though he just woke up, he said he's READY...

OMG, see...it's 9am now...

gal ~ needs 1 hour/6omin to prepare herself, before they went out dating..

guy ~ not even 5min, look at the clock....<5min, can go out already....he can sleep extra--1 more hour, LOL

Things happening this SEPTEMBER !!!

okie, straight to the point---->>

1. short semester which means any assignmetns,test,midterm,will cramp in this month....

2. a fund raising event by the Best Buddies (BB), perhaps selling BIG APPLE donuts (if nothing goes wrong)

3. MY 20th BIRTHDAY...(hoping to have surprise like last year, wishes from unexpected friends)

4. BB welcoming tea party

5. movie day out with sis (coz got free movie ticket from GSC and mystyle.com.my/v2/

6. mooncake festival on 14th Sept (celebrating ?? not really...i dont play lanterns anymore)

7. planning outings with choi peng (when she come back during month end ^^V )

erm,,what else ? cant think much right now.....tell u later when i remember more.......CIAO ...

I LOVE YOU !

again, i have something interesting to share with you all today ...haha..
it's an email i received, i think it was yesterday .. some might have seen it before as i had forwarded to some of my frens.... to those who didnt get it, harap maaf ,,LOL.....

what are you waiting for ?? scroll down and read it lar...see how many of the language you heard before, and after this, see how many you can remember and also use it in your future....muahaha...

I love you

English - I love you.

Polish - Ja Kocham Ciebie

French - Je T'aime

Hindu - Hum Tumhe Pyar Karte Hae

Czech - Miluji Te

Slovakian - Lu'Bim Ta

Italian - Ti Amo

Ukrainian - Ya Tebe Kahayu

German - Ish Libe Dish

Chinese - Wo Ai Ni（我爱你）

Greek - S'agapo

Hawaian - Aloha Wau Ia Oi

Lithuianian - Tav Myliu

Korean - Sa Rang Hae Yo

Japanese - Ai Shi Te Ru

Romanian - Te Ubsec

Bosnian - Volim Te

Albanian - Te Dua

Filipino - Mahal Kita

Spanish - Te Amo

Academic Result..

i'm so happy ! this is considered a long waiting gift for my coming bday 11 more days to go....LOL

LAN2003 Malaysian Studies A 85

LAN 2005 Moral Studies A 85

SP 101 Introduction to Psychology 1 A 84
SP 102 Introduction to Psychology 2 A 85

SP 110 Statistic for Psychology A 82

honestly, i am really excited when i checked my results one by one thiese few days...feeling relieved as well coz i need to make sure i passed (maintain 2.0) every single subject in order to receive $$ from PTPTN loan.....phew............................

and also, i never get such good resluts during my FORM6 ..coz everybody knows STPM is the hardest exam ever, plus i'm---gan hui chian...{not a top student in high school...so she seldom got straight As or many As..hahaha} ~~passed already a PLUS for me in my exams passed few years....

why 3 subjects here got 85 ??? yes, i'm very happy with it...but 1 more mark, then i got A+(4.0)....wakaka.....yalar..i'm bit greedy here 1....=p

1st day of my 2nd semester

so lazy to wake up, prepared to go for 2 classes (supposingly larr...i assumed), mummy fetched me there after her yoga class....met nicole and eunice on the way C203....

INTRO to ADVERTISING class was quite interesting, 1st impression to Ms Nur Daliza ?! erm,,,funny person,,lively..i guess......haha....only very few of us--psychology students (it's our elective) most of them are mass com lar....apa lagi ??? few friends from mass com are taking this too, kinda fun i think in this class...hehe....

i really have no idea WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN~~brochures, flyers, leaflet, booklet, catalogue.........anyone can let me know ?! haha.....

okie....after the class which ended an hour earlier, kana joined us (eunice and I) had lunch at blockA cafeteria...eunice and i chit chat-ed for a while before we went to the next class at 2pm... how--> we enjoyed our holiday, her CF camp, my Langkawi trip, her new house in Angkasa......bla bla bla

then, off we went to B101--INTRO to PUBLIC SPEAKING. i was kinda worried actually coz at first it was rejected due to the class was already FULL....but, u know--there MAYBE people dropping this subject after attending few classes.. as i was told by others...so we went to sort-of-like try out the class ( in case this subject which i added in the morning--is approved ! )

when the lecturer was taking the attendance, he called out everyone's name...left out just the few of us, so he asked for the reason and stuff.. if we only added this subject NOW/or LATER, it will still be rejected. the class is FULL.....there should be only 25-30 people in the class >,<

"why u guys just dont understand ?!" -->this 1 i added myself...HAHAHA...^o^

okie dokie, so we were like packed our things, gave back the notes, said BYE BYE to my other psycho friends (who had done the course selection earlier than us..) walking towards the door, LEAVING !!!

i feel like being KICKED OUT of the class.....LOL......1st day of this semester, this is what happen....same time--so "fish" lar,,,very "yu"....anyway, it's ok coz he's not that rude or mean when asking us to leave..he even said -- if we wanna attend his class, next semester he's definitely teaching wor.... SURE !!! see you then ... muahahaha

Innocence

This innocence is brilliant,

I hope that it will stay

This moment is perfect,

please dont go away,

I need you now

And Ill hold on to it,

dont you let it pass you by

COLOURS

at last, i changed it !

blog's background : pink-->black

haha.....although PINK is my favourite colour in what so ever thing..

found out here, with black as the colour behind there,

matches well with other colour ...

hope u guys wont feel pening, i know it'll be COLOURFUL here

life should be filled with all sorts of COLOURS..

it symbolised our feelings, our mood of the day, brighten our day

EG : i wear black when i feel moody, perhaps i got down from the wrongside of my bed

and wearing pink when i'm on cloud nine, excited to meet and hang out with people....

FERRERO ROCHER

last week went to LANGKAWI, bought some chocolates, clothes, keychain and other stuff too... coz it's a DUTY FREE zone, where you can find all those things are much cheaper than those here.....

1 thing i really recommend u guys to buy is (our topic today) --> FERRERO ROCHER !!!

so cheap over there,,OMG....haha....here, i wont buy it or yes, maybe just the packet of 3 which costs merely RM3 ... but there, i would rather buy 30 or 24....

after i went back, and i went to THE STORE, saw the price here, guess what ?!!! -for T30,

Normal ~ RM39

Langkawi ~ RM22.50

this is so so so much difference....we only buy 1 box for popo them, another 1 box for us only..coz we cant eat too much and might not want to keep it for too long also.....HAHA....

frankly speaking, if u know me long enough, u'll find out that i'm not really INTO chocolate...especially those only with pure chocolate, the whole thing is only this dark brown colour thingy, which will melt once enter one's mouth....it makes me feel so heaty...

But then, i only LIKE/LOVE this 1 ...again, yesh ~~ it's the FERRERO ROCHER...HAHA...i like there are a few layers inside, with nuts outside, wrapping it, (erm,,sorry, i sux when describing food or wadeva,,, GO BUY 1, TRY IT URSELF AND U'LL LURVE IT...)

i feel happy, loved, satisfaction, it lifts up my mood...bla bla bla...LOL...

here, i have this thought in my mind for quite some time--i even told my mum b4 :

~~for my graduation, instead of flower, i want a 'bouquet' of FERRERO ROCHER...can anot ?? mummy ? daddy ?? please.........hahaha.....receiving flowers is a norm nowadays....as well as those bear bear / piggie wearing the robe holding the cert...every1 has it, i think....in fact, i already received 1 on my 19th birthday last year..LOL..^^V

ok ok ok, i know i only finished my 1st year 1st semester, graduation is way too far for me right now...just let me daydream sometimes or have such HOPE ....